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GIF of Gal Gadot smashing into a German war room and KICKING SO MUCH ASS.

I will NOT darken this post with any of the stupid knee-jerk crap churning around from the butthurt doofuses who don't want to see this make money. BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY MAKING SO MUCH MONEY! Last I heard, it has already passed the $95 million mark and IT IS ONLY FRIDAY!

Short, spoiler-free review first:

Origin story! This is Where Diana Came From and What She Did during WWI. Lots of really cool stuff with the Amazons in the beginning--including Princess Buttercup herself, Robin Wright-Penn, which I did not know about beforehand--and then more cool stuff in London and the German front. Lots and lots of fighting, very messagey in places, but in a "Siddown, child, and allow me to lay some truth bombs on ya!" kind of way, which was IMMENSELY satisfying. The first actual, proper, war zone fight scene actually made me cry. It was overwhelming but in a good way.



Bullet points, because I am still too full of squee to be coherent.

--> Okay, so I went with my mom, who is MUCH more well-read in the DC verse than I am (I read Vertigo and Batman, that's about it, at least with DC), and she kept chiming in with little details from the comics that I didn't know about. "Oh yay, Steve found his motorcycle--Steve always has a motorcycle in the comics!" and "I mean, this is a cool reveal, but in the comics she is an Amazon, not a Goddess." Stuff like that. Which is fascinating in its own way, but I'm bringing it up here because I still find it amusing that she knows even more about this than I do. (She's very excited about Green Lantern joining the Justice League.) (I come from a very long line of geeks, guys.)

--> Last year I had a rant going about LGBT representation in superhero movies in general, and said this: "[I]f the Wonder Woman movie doesn’t have a single lesbian, at all? You will be hearing from me again." Oh yeah, I didn't forget! So, there's a bit where Diana and Steve are talking about Amazon versus Human (or rather, Western) customs, mainly marriage and Where Babies Come from. Interestingly, marriage is a foreign concept entirely; but Diana does understand the process of "procreation" and isn't even a little phased by it--OR by the concept of "pleasures of the flesh" as she calls it. In fact, there is a twelve-volume academic book series detailing said pleasures that she has read cover to cover. The author's conclusion was that men are needed for procreation, but unnecessary for pleasure. SO YEAH. LESBIANS EXIST IN THIS UNIVERSE. Also, I'm flailing over the fact that "marriage" "pleasure" and "making babies" are all things that exist in Diana's world, but none are necessarily dependent on the others, even if they happen to coincide sometimes. THAT IS A RIDICULOUSLY PROGRESSIVE STAND TO MAKE. I hope you guys can appreciate that.

--> I want to know more about the poison doctor, Dr. Isabel Maru. Played by Elena Anaya, who I swear I've seen in something before but I have no idea what. I love that there are women on both sides of this war--tough, intelligent, capable women. Given the Amazons' position of being protectors of the "world of men", it could have been easy to write off women in general as paragons of incorruptible pure pureness, but it didn't go there, and I am so glad. And as far as I can tell, Dr. Maru is still around. I want to know why she wears that rad steampunk half-mask. I want to know why she's so sadistic, yet vulnerable, but never weak. I want to write a fanfic spin-off with her and Dr. Frankenstein either teaming up or trying to out-monster each other. I WANT SO MUCH MORE DR. MARU. (I seriously need to read the comics.)

--> Diana is extremely sheltered, as her mother, Hippolyta, willfully kept information from her about her true identity. Again, given her ignorance about the world outside of the island, it would have been easy to portray her as a wide-eyed innocent who's only capable of taking care of herself because she happens to be superpowered. But nope! That didn't happen either. Diana is a natural leader who is not only willing to get right up in war generals' faces and yell, "You should be ashamed of yourselves!" when she sees them doing a wrong thing; but also to listen and empathize when Steve's team confide their own private struggles to her. She comes to the conclusion ON HER OWN that people are flawed and messy, but still worth saving, and dammit she is going to fight for them. She has both conviction and an eagerness to learn despite coming into this world almost blind to its entire history, and it is so, so well done.

--> Racial diversity, in a creeping towards being less awful way. There are black women on the Amazons' island, a few of whom have speaking roles. Also, Steve's team includes a Native American, who tells Diana about his people getting wiped out by Steve's people; and a Moroccan aspiring actor who can't get cast in anything because he's not white enough. As for Gal Gadot herself, I'll just point you here because I'm not really qualified to get into detail here. BUT if you need to see an Israeli actress pound some fascist soldiers into the dirt, this movie has a lot of that.

--> I remember having a conversation with a guy elseweb who was sure that a movie about Wonder Woman wasn't possible to do without it being really voyeuristic "just because of that costume". This was like two years ago, and I remember saying, "Dude, they just need a female director. THAT WILL FIX EVERYTHING." I'm giving myself a high five for CALLING IT because yep, female director = NO MALE GAZEY CREEPINESS! Vindicated I am. In your face, guy!

--> I want to see this twelve more times.

Date: 2017-06-03 04:40 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore

OMG your mom is too cute.

Date: 2017-06-03 04:52 am (UTC)
gothrockrulz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gothrockrulz
Pretty much agreed on all points here! I was soooo enamored with everything going on, didn't even notice the lack of objectifying male gaze.

HOW ABOUT THEM AMAZONS??? (Vague spoilers to follow.) Holy carp. I was flipping out the entire time they were on Amazon Island there. The fight sequences were gorgeous and glorious. Also what was amazing? Everyone was warlike, but there was no bloodlust or warmongering. It was obvious the Amazons trained to protect, and even tiny Diana itching to be trained seemed to do so she could be a force to be reckoned with, like her aunt. (Also, hey, can we get a prequel movie about the Amazon queen and general being the most badass sister duo ever? Please?)

Also, I had been worried that the messages would be too heavy-handed, even if I approved of them, but they weren't. And I'm glad of that. I also was worried Chris Pine's character would be annoying. He wasn't--I actually liked him a lot, and his super emotional talk with Diana about humanity had me crying. SO GOOD.

Date: 2017-06-05 06:37 am (UTC)
gothrockrulz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gothrockrulz
And we also got full-frontal Chris Pine!! The moment that happened is when that hit me. Like, 'Oh wow, so this is what a role reversal on that Accidentally Nekkid trope feels like, nice!'

That scene was a great reversal, but still made me cringe almost as badly as the 1,001 female ones. I think because I'd probably wanna die in his situation if that happened to me. (Tangent: I could watch Chris Pine marveling at glowing cave bathwater like a giddy five-year-old all day.)

And what I love about that is that Steve and the other dudes keep trying to tell her not to care so much, because that's how they've learned to cope, but she's like, "NO. I am not ignoring this crying child, and you can't make me." And it's a source of strength and motivation, not weakness because Emotional.

Holy carp, I didn't think of it that way, but you're completely right. Now I can't unsee it. And it's very satisfying. (Especially since I tend to bury emotions that same way because a) can't process well and b) conceal, don't feel, don't let them knowwww). And agreed, I want to sing Patty Jenkins' praises all day long now.

Date: 2017-07-04 05:17 am (UTC)
gothrockrulz: (green garrett)
From: [personal profile] gothrockrulz
Totally a legit phenomenon.

Oh, that must be so fun. Someday, I'll see it, too.

It's a bit alarming to see how much we've been conditioned to just sit politely and let people talk over us.

Yeah, especially in situations where it directly affects us, but somehow we're not supposed to have power or autonomy. Or how apologizing is a go-to defense mechanism whenever you're in doubt, purely for survival.

Date: 2017-06-04 03:23 am (UTC)
orcofnewyork: (Default)
From: [personal profile] orcofnewyork
So awesome that your mom is a comic geek!

I'm relieved to read your review because the WW marketing here in Japan is bad. Like really, really bad. They're using taglines "A total innocent! She's never known a man!" (in the heternormative dating/sex context) and basically making it sound like she's a sheltered schoolgirl who will be blown away by meeting men and human society and only then can she be a REAL woman.

So either the marketing team didn't watch this movie or they did watch it but are afraid the male audience here will be disgusted or intimidated if she's not a fainting virginal flower. It'll be interesting to see if they blatantly alter the Japanese dubbed dialogue to change her characterization to fit that mold.

Date: 2017-06-04 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] stormkeeper_lovedoris
YAY!!! We're going to see it Saturday, thinking that our local theater will be too crowded today. Counting down to the 6 days.

Date: 2017-06-07 03:28 am (UTC)
xerinmichellex: (film: GWTW - fangirls)
From: [personal profile] xerinmichellex

I'm so glad they hired competent people to do Wonder Woman because, unlike the other DCU movies, I loved every minute of it and want to watch it again and again. That freakin' march across No Man's Land got me so hyped; thank god Patty Jenkins fought so hard to keep that scene. (I totally teared up at that pivotal moment even though it was shades of the first Captain America.)

I don't know if it's because of everything that's happening in the world - particularly domestically - but afterwards I was just so. . . emotional? and thankful that this movie came out. It took a long time, but dammit we finally a good and empowering female superhero movie.

Played by Elena Anaya, who I swear I've seen in something before but I have no idea what.

I also thought she looked familiar but I couldn't place her until I checked her IMDB page: She played the lead Dracula Bride in Van Helsing and was in Justin Timberlake's "Sexyback" video.

Date: 2017-06-07 06:22 pm (UTC)
xerinmichellex: (film: Star Wars)
From: [personal profile] xerinmichellex
YES I need a Wonder Woman icon asap.

Although honestly a few things hurt because we still couldn't go a week--not ONE WEEK--apparently without hearing critics try to shred it

Eh, I blocked out the critics' (and whiny white men in general) opinion on the movie and focused more on what the fans were saying. I was on the fence about seeing it, but once I saw all the female fan reactions to the movie I was like, "I GOTTA GO NOW!" And I'm glad I did.


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